what i'm saying about the debates, romney has a chance, there is no filter and he'll be able to make the case and certainly afterwards, president is going to, and pundits like me are going to say what they interpreted for people the fact that the audience is going to be so huge that i don't think that people listen to that interpretation. >> one last one for you, no. in your heart. look, i respect you, i think you're a very honest man, if your heart. do you think that a second obama term, he would stay hard left or he'll move to the center? i say he stays hard left. what do you say? >> look, i think there are a lot of democrats and progressives that think he is to the center. and i think he has to move to the center because there's no way -- look, whether romney wins or obama wins, there's got to be compromise. either romney has to compromise with the democrats in the nate or the president does, otherwise we're not going to get anything does unless these two parties start working together. stuart: and he'll bypass congress and govern by executive decree, he can do it. >> he can, but